tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post3596920716425859389..comments2023-10-24T07:03:42.942-05:00Comments on vtmbottomline: IS BLOGGING GOSSIP?Paul Burlesonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17021178307705707423noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post-88612678564848736952007-02-22T15:35:00.000-06:002007-02-22T15:35:00.000-06:00Annon from Chicago,It is a delight to hear from yo...Annon from Chicago,<BR/><BR/>It is a delight to hear from you again. The "be quiet and go home and ask your husband" has been used for years to silence women who are smart enough to know when things are wrong and spiritual enough to ask discerning questions and the one in charge doesn't want to be held accountable. Unfortunately, that is lording it over the flock which IS sin and misunderstanding the meaning of that verse which IS true in context. So, to say you've been treated unfairly is putting it mildly if what I've seen done to some has been done to you. On behalf of Godfearing, Bible believing, and people loving pastors everywhere, let me apologize for that kind of treatment. <BR/><BR/>Yes, Wade and I are related. He is Mary and my son. The second of our four, and the first of two boys. He and Rachelle are the parents of four of our thirteen grandchildren and for that he's the greatest. :)Paul Burlesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17021178307705707423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post-20728927908766470722007-02-22T13:37:00.000-06:002007-02-22T13:37:00.000-06:00Paul,I haven't written in a while, but this post a...Paul,<BR/>I haven't written in a while, but this post also brought something forward to me:<BR/><BR/>I think you have a point--and we need to be very careful "out here" in the www.<BR/><BR/>But, as a female person in this universe, let me just say that there has been a lot on the planet done without transparency and cloaked as "need for prayer" or some such, and this has silenced or supressed women. So, I appreciate the transparency theme. I have been silenced in the church another institutions by those using churchey terms or themes and protecting their hides from their behaviors. Therefore, I am more supportive of the openness we need, which tends to make people's motives, actions and words synch up. We hope.<BR/><BR/>Best regards,<BR/>Annon from Chicago.<BR/>(also, are you and Wade related? I'm not fluent, yet.) :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post-10361524249176874032007-02-20T19:17:00.000-06:002007-02-20T19:17:00.000-06:00Paul: Thanks. It's probably because, since I have ...Paul: <BR/><BR/>Thanks. It's probably because, since I have no degree, I don't know that many words to use at one time.Bob Clevelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06110395869562328309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post-46380645443266865242007-02-20T06:11:00.000-06:002007-02-20T06:11:00.000-06:00Bryan,Call anytime.Bob, Why is it you can say in t...Bryan,<BR/><BR/>Call anytime.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Bob, <BR/><BR/>Why is it you can say in three sentences what It took twelve paragraphs for me to try to say? Well said friend.Paul Burlesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17021178307705707423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post-69880574704292626062007-02-19T21:22:00.000-06:002007-02-19T21:22:00.000-06:00Substitute "talk" for "blog" and it would all stil...Substitute "talk" for "blog" and it would all still apply. After all, blogging is sort of like talking, with Spellcheck, written down. <BR/><BR/>Is talking "gossip"? Some is, some isn't.Bob Clevelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06110395869562328309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post-74778941962466710782007-02-19T17:18:00.000-06:002007-02-19T17:18:00.000-06:00Thanks, Paul. I totally meant to call you today, ...Thanks, Paul. I totally meant to call you today, but have let the day slip me by. I'd like to chat!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post-46783307659363755902007-02-19T08:08:00.000-06:002007-02-19T08:08:00.000-06:00Bryan,It would be a fun word study which I need to...Bryan,<BR/><BR/>It would be a fun word study which I need to make myself. I can tell you that, from the context of it's [gossip/debate] use in the passages it will be a negative meaning and, as such, should be avoided by all of us.<BR/><BR/>My little minor point is that, in English, the word/s do have a positive side. [Really probably not a point worth making.]<BR/><BR/>We're excited about the Riley's new ministry assignment coming up. Way to go.Paul Burlesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17021178307705707423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post-70289052467835451812007-02-19T06:56:00.000-06:002007-02-19T06:56:00.000-06:00I'm interested in the Greek word for debate in the...I'm interested in the Greek word for debate in the passage as well as the word for gossip!<BR/><BR/>I agree with Alyce that the heart of the issue is the motive, and we are always to be motivated by love for the purpose of loving and edifying. When I read personal public attacks I can immediately discount the comment as unloving.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post-75836470112858475312007-02-18T20:18:00.000-06:002007-02-18T20:18:00.000-06:00Lee,I could not agree with you more in regards to ...Lee,<BR/><BR/>I could not agree with you more in regards to Wade's blog. I know some would chalk it up to being proud of a son, which is more than true, but it really is because I'm a connoisseur of great preaching and great preachers after fifty years of experience and you ARE correct. I see you're way ahead in regards to wisdom in things like that without the long years I needed to get there. :)<BR/><BR/>The rest of what you say is appreciated and I'll personally chalk it up to your kindness.<BR/><BR/>All kidding aside, you have much to say when you speak and I'm refering to the many comments you have wisely allowed all of us to hear in the christian cyber-community. Thank you for that.Paul Burlesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17021178307705707423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post-72356261419078063832007-02-18T19:51:00.000-06:002007-02-18T19:51:00.000-06:00No doubt, a blog could be used to convey gossip. ...No doubt, a blog could be used to convey gossip. I'm sure there are plenty out there that do. <BR/><BR/>Specifically, Wade's blog is not gossip. He is always careful to make sure his facts are accurate, and usually offers information as to how to check them out. He does not resort to personal attacks. He does not disclose confidential information. His intention, clearly conveyed in the language he chooses, is to disclose information that any Southern Baptist with a heart for the work of the denomination on behalf of the Lord should know. His comments are not personally critical, but questioning. The most common descriptive term I see related to his blog is "integrity." That's not gossip. If he didn't already have a calling as a pastor, he'd make an excellent Baptist journalist. <BR/><BR/>While I read his blog for information, I read yours for inspiration. I just celebrated my first anniversary in my current church staff position, in discipleship, lay mobilization and ministry supervision, and even though I've only been able to preach three or four times during the year, I often quote your blog in meetings with adult leaders. I'm glad you're writing these reflections and sharing your journey in ministry. It's valuable information, and I think it is an excellent use for this great technology, which is also a lot of fun. I really like being part of a Christian cybercommunity!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post-41314939013770997062007-02-18T16:44:00.000-06:002007-02-18T16:44:00.000-06:00Wade,Thanks...that guarantees a large measure of r...Wade,<BR/><BR/>Thanks...that guarantees a large measure of reads for vtmbottomline judging from your readership. :)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Alyce,<BR/><BR/>I appreciate your comments always. I have to admit to a bit of a minor thing being accomplished by this post, at least the portion addressing "positive gossip." [I'm one of those guys who straightens a crooked picture on the WALL OF MY BANK for crying out loud.] :) <BR/><BR/>This is really minor but I don't like to lose a word's meaning. My point is that "gossip" isn't only evil/sinful. The etymology of the word shows it originally refered to intimate friendly conversation between friends. "God-sib" is the word and it refered to the godparents of a child talking to him/her. That's close good conversation. I even read this statement..."Gossip can foster and build a sense of community with shared interests and information." <BR/><BR/>The overwhelming meaning today, I realize, is negative, but I don't want to give a word up like we've given up "gay." [That crooked picture thing, small but needed in my view.] Now I did say this whole thing is minor didn't I. :)<BR/><BR/>I wonder what this says about me? Don't answer that...I don't want to know. :)Paul Burlesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17021178307705707423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post-70957271518871059882007-02-18T15:49:00.000-06:002007-02-18T15:49:00.000-06:00Paul, very good!I have enjoyed blogging for the ve...Paul, very good!<BR/>I have enjoyed blogging for the very reason that it keeps me informed. I am able to hear many viewpoints, check out facts from many sources and make a more informed decision.<BR/>But about 'if' conversation is gossip. I think motive-goes to the heart of everything. God ALWAYS looks at the heart. Is our conversation laced with motives? ie to win, to tear down, to attack. I see many here attacking. I hear many bent on winning at any cost and unable to hear or listen to any view but 'from those abiding in their tent.' <BR/>If our motive, on the other hand is to build up, to encourage, to lend a hand and care for people (even those we feel are not being cared for) then talking about How to do this, or and how it is not being done, to me is NOT gossip. As long as <STRONG> we check our motives, ways and plans with God </STRONG> After all, judgement starts here with the household. We are after all, accountable to one another.<BR/>Let's be honest, we've all crossed the line. I've typed, when I shouldn't have. And unfortunately, there is no erase button :( But, we learn. And can go back and say, I'm sorry.<BR/>For now, may God check me, I ask Him too, I have a good Hubby, who reads every day and comes often and says, Alyce great post, or sometimes, Alyce, perhaps you should.... :( either way I listen to him, because I know his motives toward me and like God's they are always good.<BR/>AgapeAlyce Faulknerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02512838526517367006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28605099.post-10141838450926934642007-02-17T12:38:00.000-06:002007-02-17T12:38:00.000-06:00Well said.I have long advocated transparency for t...Well said.<BR/><BR/>I have long advocated transparency for the work of Christian SBC circles. I will link to this post when people wonder between the difference of gossip and transparency.wadeburleson.orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09712009938843809657noreply@blogger.com